“Movies will make you famous; Television will make you rich; But theatre will make you good.”
― Terrence Mann
Chandigarh’s theater scene is well aware of his name. His plays have done all the talking already. Having watched number of his plays and exchanging words of praise over text messages, I thought it would be a good idea to meet him in person and try to get to know that how he kills it on stage every time! Seems like once wasn’t enough so I and Vishal met him twice! Here’s all the sugar and spice:
We sat on a park bench in St Kabir’s lush green garden holding a chai ki payali in our hands. With twilight hours approaching… I called his name out loud. “Zubin”
What does it mean?
It means ‘Weapon’ in Persian and ‘Love’ in some another language.
And which definition do you put your faith into?
I think both, I prefer “Weapon of Love.”
People who know you or follow you are well aware of your love for nature, especially moon, does it ever talk back? what does it say?
Well yes! it says ‘grow up’ it says ‘why do you looking outside? look within’. Moon is an old friend. And I think if I am to sum up my life in 5 words it would be: Mom, stage, kids, hills and bike.
This is quite a list! Do you think peace can be found outside?
Well, it’s inside… but if X place has better vibration and Y does not and if you can choose, then why not!
Apart from the theater whats else is happening?
My house, which is done now. I have built it with my blood and sweat. I say blood because I had a minor injury while the construction was ongoing which made me bleed a little. So its an inside joke ‘blood and sweat.’
What’s the next production about?
It’s tentative, we are reading couple of scripts including the adaption of To Kill a mockingbird. We are holding a workshop in April. Once its completed we will pick the final script and actors.
Now it’s difficult when two cinema enthusiasts are sitting together and the conversation about movies doesn’t happen. Vishal and Zubin had a little chat about cinema they like and finds inspiring. Now being a ‘Books’ person all I did was nod and pretend to understand what they were talking about 😛
V: What type of cinema you watch and drive inspiration from?
Z: I like any kind of cinema which tells good stories without decoration. You can say my all time favorite is Children of Heaven, also The bicycle Thief.
If you liked those two you’d also like to watch ‘A Separation,’ suggested Vishal and I chipped in asking my kind of question!
A: And what about books?
Z: I haven’t read much in last 3 years. My routine is that my days begin at 8am and ends at 8pm including Saturdays and Sundays. That hardly leave time to read anything except the scripts we work on!
V: Why do people have this notion that theater doesn’t pay well. That its about struggle, how true is that?
Z: Yes, people do say that theater walas wear chappals and carry jholas and roam on streets. But no, I wear my boots and drive my car. Its a stereotype associated with theater since long. I believe when you have a right kind of approach and when you follow your passion you can certainly earn. There is so much demand of talent.
V: Any special moment from your plays which you remember or cherish?
Z: Many times, on stage a little kid of 6-7 year of age does something in the flow of the moment, which is never planned, told or directed and leaves you awestruck. There is one such moment which will always stay with me. ….We staged a play ‘Robin Hood’ which is a love story of Marian and Robin Hood. So there is a scene where Rakshaya, the girl who played Marian, has to say goodbye to him, turn her back and exit. Now she says goodbye, turn around, walks toward the exit as planned and the suddenly, stops…stays still for 1.2.3. seconds turns around, looks at Robin, looks down, turn her back again and exits hurriedly. When I saw that happening I was astonished! I was like what was that ?
These are the moments I work for.
A scene from the WTA class at St. Kabir’s
Following the lead….
And you always wanted to be a director?
No, actually I wanted to be an actor and I did go to Bombay to pursue that dream. Somehow while I was pursuing that dream I realized that Theater is my primary calling. You know how in The Alchemist the protagonist realizes the treasure has been dig right at the place he began his journey from. So that way… 7 years I taught theater, collected money to go to Bombay and when I reached there I had my Eureka moment that theater is my calling above anything else.
So have you given up on that dream?
It’s not about giving up on dreams in life. I think what happens it that as we grow our dreams also evolve with that growth. Some gets transcended, and some new ones are born.
That make sense…
I didn’t take this decision in pressure of Bombay or of being no one in that city. I took a break I came back to Chandigarh, went up hills, did yoga, took part in vipasana and I realized even if I get all the things over there someday, I wont be happy! I just knew it Bombay wasn’t for me. I am very happy and satisfied here.
And what about the actor inside, is it satisfied?
Well, not all yours dreams are fulfilled the way you want or when you want.
So how do you cope with those yet unfulfilled dreams?
With a hope that someday I will act again. I miss it terribly right now. Honestly, I don’t even know if I am a good actor because I haven’t acted in years.
But you make other people act….
I know I do, but there is this dream to do a solo play, get a good director and put up such a production.
Well I am sure that day is not too far…Who inspired you to be an actor?
My father wanted me to be an artist. I vividly remember, I must have been 8 years old, my father looked at me, tapped on my shoulder and said “Tu artist banega.” I think life has given me everything today, except a girlfriend.
A: I find that hard to believe!
Don’t find it hard to believe , find a girlfriend for me!
And a laughter broke out…
A: But do you miss your dad?
I don’t ‘miss-him’ miss him. I lost him when I was very young and my mom never let me feel his absence but I really think he would have been so proud, watching my plays today.
A: I feel death ends a life not a relationship, so I am sure he is watching…
He is! Only sometimes I feel he should have been physically here too. Like when we were building this new house, me and my mom, I wish he could see how dearly we have done it.
This moment connected us all in a comforting silence which broke when Vishal chipped in with a funny yet very realistic question.
V: On a lighter note how does your mom tell her friends or people about what her son does (professionally)?
Z: She was very happy when I was teaching at YPS, as it was a brand name. But now when anyone asks her she says “oh theatre karda hai” and then people end up asking “oh ta theek hai, par oh karda ki hai?” all over again!
Obviously laughter broke out again.
A: Tell me something people find hard to believe about you…
Z: That I am a teetotaler. I never smoked. When I break this to other people they usually react out of disbelief: “punjabi hai! biker hai! peenda nahi hai?”
V: Mom shadi ki baat nahi karte?
Z: Karte hain! but she knows I am not an arranged marriage person which she understands well, so she never pushes me.
A: You have spoken about how your mom has been an amazing parent. Have you been a good son?
Z: I guess I am, my only regret is not being able to spend as much time as I want with her.
I and Vishal spent an hour long workshop at St. Kabir’s and saw Zubin working closely with his Wings Theater Academy (WTA) team. It was beautiful to see how all those kids were not only learning various aspects of theater but also life. Things like discipline, obedience, sharing and spirit of team work
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A: So how does Wings came into being?
I started wings in 2012. I’d come back from Bombay. Mr. Gurpreet Bakshi threw this idea as he had seen my work and the way I connect with kids. So I asked him would it work? He said, it might! So I started wings with one condition that no matter how many kids gets enrolled, even if they are just 7-8 in number we will stick to it for 6 months. Today we have 160 kids and we can’t enroll more because there are no seats.
Does it include kids from various school?
Yes, its open to all. I have students from age 6 year old to 28 years old divided in three groups: 6-10 years, 11-16 years and 17-28 years.
What kind of positive impact theater has on a child’s life?
A child becomes more expressive, more free, confident and becomes a better human being. That is because he learns to empathize with another human beings. It teaches team work, and getting into the shoes of character. I always try to make them feel those emotions and then acting comes effortlessly. Theater, if its really taught well it makes a huge difference. If as a child I have had regular theater classes, I would have been a happier person.
I direct them to focus their energies and then give them windows to let them be.
Many times bottled up emotions come out on stage. Suppose a kid has a negative emotion like anger, it comes out in a very safe environment on stage. He gets a vent which is a great help in character building in life and then on stage.
What do you look for when finding your actors?
I just look for sharp minds when actors are grown ups. For young batches; everyone is welcome!
What are you looking for in April’s workshop and upcoming production?
I am looking for Actors between the age group of 17yrs – 28yrs with proficiency in English and interest in Acting, Music or Design. It doesn’t matter if they hold any prior experience or not as long as they are open to learn and adapt.
No wonder that not only we had a glimpse of the director in action but we also discovered a nature loving, caring, sensitive human who is full of empathy and talent which is making a remarkable positive impact to many people’s everyday life. If you want to enroll yourself in the upcoming workshops feel free to get in touch with Wings Theater Academy. The workshop commences on April 3rd 2016. I say let the curtains rise!
Here’s a special thanks to Vishal for being an amazing creative partner and for capturing the magic as and how it happened!
Amy Singh